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Vedan¤, Tisso vedan¤

The Three Sensations

Rreferences:

BuddhaDust Satipatthana Resources Section

Rhys Davids Introduction to their translation of the Satipatthana Sutta, and the translation itself

Puremind, M. Punnaji, Awakening Meditation, 1-13, 1-15, 3-12, 4-3, 4-6, 6-8, 7-6,7, 7-11, 7-16, 8-52, 8-60, 8-61, 8-86

Wisdom Publicatiions, The Middle Length Discourses of the Buddha, Bhikkhu Nanamoli and Bhikkhu Bodhi, #10: The Foundations of Mindfulness, pp 145

Wisdom Publications, The Long Discourses of the Buddha, Maurice Walshe, #22: The Greater Discourse on the Foundations of Mindfulness, pp335

Pali Text Society, Middle Length Sayings I, #10: Discourse on the Applications of Mindfulness, Horner, pp70

PTS: Dialogs of the Buddha III, #33: The Recital, T.W. and C.A.F. Rhys Davids, trans., pp201

WP: The Long Discourses of the Buddha, #33: The Chanting Together, M. Walshe, trans., pp479

PTS: Dialogs of the BuddhaThe Setting Up of Mindfulness

Soma Thera, ATI: The Discourse on the Arousing of Mindfulness

ATI: Thanissaro Bhikkhu, Frames of Reference

PTS: The Middle Length Sayings, I, #10: Applications of Mindfulness, Horner, trans., pp78

WP: The Middle Length Discourses of the Buddha, #10: The Foundations of Mindfulness, Bhikkhu Nanamoli and Bhikkhu Bodhi, trans., pp152

PTS: The Book of the Gradual Sayings, V: The Book of the Tens, The Great Chapter, The Great Questions, Woodward, trans., pp36ff

ATI: Contemplation of Feeling,The Discourse-Grouping on the Feelings, Nyanaponika Thera

PTS: The Book of the Kindred Sayings, V: Kindred Sayings on the Way: ix: Feeling, Woodward, trans., pp19

PTS: The Book of the Gradual Sayings, III: The Book of the Sixes, ix:#63: A penetrative discourse, Hare, trans, pp292

BD: DN#33:Sangiti Suttanta:3.26: ]

BD: The Compilation, MO, trans. #3.26 ]

BD: The Third Lesson


Pali MO Nyanasatta Thera Hare Horner Punnaji Bodhi Nanamoli Rhys Davids (Mrs)Rhys Davids Thanissaro Walshe Woodward Soma Thera Nyanaponika Thera
vedana sensation feelings feeling feeling sensation feelings feelings feelings feelings, modes of feelings feelings, moods feelings feeling feeling feeling
Sukhavedan¤ pleasant feeing of ease pleasurable feeling pleasant sensation pleasant feeling pleasant feeling ease, pleasant feeling pleasant feeling good moods, ease, well-being pleasant feeling pleasant feeling pleasant feeling pleasant
dukkha vedan¤ Painful Ugly Ukky K-kha; Pain; shit; unpleasant sensation Ill, feeling of ill anguish, painful feeling Unease suffering, unpleasant sensation, painful feeling Suffering, painful feeling Ill, painful feeling, mal-aise Ill, Sorrow, painful feeling suffering, bad moods, depression, sorrow, annoyance or discouragement Suffering, painful feeling Ill, painful feeling painful feeling unpleasant (painful)
adukkha-m-asukh¤ vedan¤ not-pleasant-but-not-unpleasant feeling of neither ill nor ease neither painful nor pleasant neutral sensation neither-painful-nor-pleasant feeling neither-painful-nor-pleasant feeling neutral feeling neutral feeling (uses upekkha-vedana) neutral moods neither (pleasant, painful) neither pleasant nor painful neither-pleasant-nor-painful neutral

 

Pali Text Society, Pali English Dictionary (edited entry):

Vedan¤:(f.) [fr. ved*: see vedeti; cp. Epic Sk. vedan¤] feeling, sensation (see on term, e. g. Cpd. 14 Mrs. Rh. D. B. Psy., ch. iv.) D I.45; II.58 (cp. Dial. II.54), 66; III.58, 77, 221, 228, 238 (*up¤dan¤); S III.86 sq.; A I.39, 122, 141; II.79, 198, 256; III.245 sq., 450; IV.301, 385;...-- Three modes of feeling (usually understood whenever mention is made of "tisso vedan¤"): sukh¤ (pleasant), dukkh¤ (painful) adukkha-m-asukh¤ (indifferent) D III.275; S II.53, 82; IV.207; A III.400...-- Five vedan¤s: sukha¸, dukkha¸, somanassa¸, domanassa¸, upekkh¤ Vism 461. Categories of 2 to 108 modes of Vedana, S IV.223 sq. --vedan¤ is one of the 5 khandhas. -- On relation of old and new sensations (pur¤¼a* nava*) see e. g. A II.40; III.388; IV.167; Vism 33...-- In the PaÂiccasamupp¤da (q. v.) vedan¤ stands between phassa as condition and ta¼h¤ as result; see e. g. Vism 567 sq.

2. (in special application) painful sensation, suffering, pain (i. e. dukkha-vedan¤) M I.59; A I.153 (s¤r¨rik¤ bodily pain); II.116 (id.); III.143 (id.)...--vedan' aÂÂa afflicted y pain Vin II.61; III.100; J I.293. -- As adj. vedana suffering or to be suffered Pv III.106 (=anubhuyam¤na PvA 214).

 

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This is how Vedana fits into the Paticca Samuppada: Downbound, The Six-fold Sense Realm rebounds bound up in Contact (PHASSA: touch)
Downbound Contact Rebounds bound up in Sense Experience (VEDANA).
Downbound Sense Experience Rebounds Bound up in Hunger/Thirst (TANHA wanting)
 
Or, according to the "Backwards-up" methodology:
Could there be any kind of wanting (wanting to get pleasure, wanting to end pain, wanting to live, wanting to live again, wanting to end living) if there were no experience of sensations of pleasure or pain or neither pleasure nor pain at any one of the six organs of sense?
No, there could not be any kind of wanting if there were no experience of sensations of pleasure, pain or neither pleasure nor pain at any one (or more) of the six organs of sense.
Therefore Wanting arises dependant on Sense Experience.
Could there be any Experience of Pleasure or Pain or neither Pleasure nor pain at any of the six organs of sense if there were no contact of any kind by any organ of sense with any object of sense?
No, there could not be any experience of pleasure or pain or neither pleasure nor pain at any of the six sense organs if there were no contact by any organ with any object.
Therefore Sense Experience arises dependant on Contact.

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